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CRASH
09-11-2009, 12:26 AM
Thinking of upgrading an ASUS M3A78-EM (780G chipset)running an 4850e(bought the mobo, cpu and case for like $100) with an AMD Phenom II X4 955 or 945. may add another 4Gigs of DDR2 800 (running Window 7 64bit) or just make the leap to DDR2 1066.

Any opinions on AMD quads?

Copydude
09-11-2009, 01:22 AM
The beauty of the AMD quads is the price, they are cheap!, I have 2 AMD duals 3.0's and love them an dthe play the game flawlessly, that said, the two problems with AMD is that Intel's run faster at slower clock speeds, and the boards are still at ddr2's, when you get excellent pricing and speeds for ddr3's. SO I would look at the new i7's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214
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CrazyCanuck
09-11-2009, 05:22 AM
Theres nothing wrong with AMD quad cores at all. I used them for years.

They are definitely cheaper then Intel , although the new i5 750 from intel is coming in at a very sweet price point around $199.00.

If you can get a good AMD quad clocked in around 3.0-3.2 ghz you should be good to go and have little issues with cpu bottlenecks.

Copydude
09-11-2009, 08:37 AM
Theres nothing wrong with AMD quad cores at all. I used them for years.

They are definitely cheaper then Intel , although the new i5 750 from intel is coming in at a very sweet price point around $199.00.

If you can get a good AMD quad clocked in around 3.0-3.2 ghz you should be good to go and have little issues with cpu bottlenecks.

that's true, I like the way AMD's cpu's are set up for the pipelines, and how they utilize the processors, AMD's all share the load across all four processors, whereas Intel, loads 1 then another, and another etc.
AMD has a pipeline for each one, whereas Intel shares thus bottlenecking,

However, isn't the speed made better by the triple density ram at higher speeds vs the DDR? this is abou the only reason, I am shying away form AMD at this time.

CrazyCanuck
09-11-2009, 10:06 AM
that's true, I like the way AMD's cpu's are set up for the pipelines, and how they utilize the processors, AMD's all share the load across all four processors, whereas Intel, loads 1 then another, and another etc.
AMD has a pipeline for each one, whereas Intel shares thus bottlenecking,

However, isn't the speed made better by the triple density ram at higher speeds vs the DDR? this is abou the only reason, I am shying away form AMD at this time.

at this moment the advantages of triple channel ddr3 ram and dual channel ddr3 ram are negligible. Triple channel ram seems to help more when your using an sli or crossfire setup with higher end cards and for overclocking the ram.

I wouldn't sweat having dual channel ram at this time by any means, especially if its ddr3. Maybe once the G300 series beasts hit the market triple channel will start to show a few advantages over dual channel.

but for good ram low latencies are always the best. Low timing numbers.


KEEP YOUR EYES PEELED..

I smell a price war coming soon between Intel and AMD. Intel just released a new i5 750 processor for around $199.00. AMD has to respond to this and they will at some time. I think the consumer is going to have some serious deals in the near future.

CRASH
09-11-2009, 05:50 PM
The beauty of the AMD quads is the price, they are cheap!, I have 2 AMD duals 3.0's and love them and the play the game flawlessly, that said, the two problems with AMD is that Intel's run faster at slower clock speeds, and the boards are still at ddr2's, when you get excellent pricing and speeds for ddr3's. SO I would look at the new i7's

I was thinking of a cheap upgrade over gaming on my intel machine(2.66 Core 2 Duo on 1333 FSB on an Intel DP35DP), it would also give me a platform to run an nVidia 285(I run ATI 4870 now) graphics card at the same time.
My other option is to upgrade to a Q9550 in the intel machine, I think I have a little more wiggle room to experiment with the AMD machine and tweak the clock settings, not really looking at doing any hardcore overclocking. I can keep the intel machine running stable if I tweak something too much on the AMD machine.
My down the road goal is to build an i7 (1366 socket) machine and replace my AOpen machine running a 3Gig Prescott, P875 chipset and recently upgraded 3850 AGP(not a PCIe) graphics card. I do my photo and video editing on that machine, I am thinking the intel machine will eventually replace it and I'll give the AMD machine to my nephew.

Copydude
09-11-2009, 10:51 PM
I am running dual fx-74's 3.0 with 8 gigs of ram and I run phot0shop CS4 etc fantastically, I would highly recommend AMD's for graphics, that is where they shine over intel

maddog101
09-12-2009, 03:33 PM
I've used amd for quiet a few years, the current one is a quad and I have never had issues with any of them. I would reccomend them and they are usually good value for money.