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JVS (BE)
06-19-2007, 12:57 PM
I am getting this problem during the use of my computer and especially when using my graphicscard. It can happen after 5 min or 2 hours, not able to tell before. My computer appears to go in sleepmode however I need to reset the computer when he does this. Afterwards when I look at the problemsmenu in Vista it says Livekernellevent. For the information I am running the Asus version of the 8800gts with an Asus am2 motherboard so I don't think compatibility is the issue. Furthermore, my graphicscars and computer are not running extremely hot when this happens. Anyone any experience with this problem ?
If people wonder why I am leaving in the middle of a game this is the reason :(
The kernel is the essential center of a computer operating system, the core that provides basic services for all other parts of the operating system. A synonym is nucleus. A kernel can be contrasted with a shell, the outermost part of an operating system that interacts with user commands.
Kernel and shell are terms used more frequently in UNIX and some other operating systems than in IBM mainframe systems. Typically, a kernel (or any comparable center of an operating system) includes an interrupt handler that handles all requests or completed I/O operations that compete for the kernel's services, a scheduler that determines which programs share the kernel's processing time in what order, and a supervisor that actually gives use of the computer to each process when it is scheduled. A kernel may also include a manager of the operating system's address spaces in memory or storage, sharing these among all components and other users of the kernel's services.
A kernel's services are requested by other parts of the operating system or by application through a specified set of program interfaces sometimes known as system calls. Because the code that makes up the kernel is needed continuously, it is usually loaded into computer storage in an area that is protected so that it will not be overlaid with other less frequently used parts of the operating system. The kernel is not to be confused with the Basic Input/Output System (BIOS).
Some kernels have been developed independently for use in any operating system that wants to use it. A well-known example is the Mach kernel, developed at Carnegie-Mellon University, and currently used in a version of the Linux operating system for Apple's PowerMac computers
In english - it may be your PSU causing the problem.
JVS (BE)
06-20-2007, 01:18 PM
If I am correct I need to put in a bigger power source, so everything has enough electricity ?
Copydude
06-21-2007, 08:57 AM
I was just going to ask what power supply you have now... withthe new cards and boards sucking up more and more you need to make sure you have at least 650watts. I had my old comp nosediving alot and under heavy graphics use it would just reboot... I upgraded the power source and the problems went away, made life interesting here for a bit.
Karl
SgtChopper
06-21-2007, 06:26 PM
Yet sound like a power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371001
Antec is the best PS. You get what you pay for
Yourself
06-21-2007, 07:55 PM
Also, check the temperature of your video card - there are several utilities to do that, and doesn't the NVIDIA driver also do that?
But I also agree....sounds like a spotty power supply, or a power supply that's being exceeded.
If that's the case, you can cause serious harm to all of your computer components.
Does it happen if the computer is sitting idle, or only while gaming?
Do you use Aero?
Yourself (Dave)
JVS (BE)
06-22-2007, 01:59 PM
Most of the time it happens when I am using the graphics card (gaming, watching a movie). It happens when the computer has been on for a few minutes or sometimes after an hour. I opened my case and when i feel at the graphics card it does not seem to be very hot. I am not sure which power supply I have at the moment but I am going to look into it.
wowowowowwow i made a larger post than Yourself :D :D :D
JVS (BE)
06-22-2007, 03:58 PM
Congrats Mike lol
As for the PSU 350 Watt, perhaps not big enough. I already emailed my computerseller to ask for any recommendation.
Yourself
06-22-2007, 08:33 PM
Mike said:
wowowowowwow i made a larger post than Yourself
:3some: :3some: :3some:
But Mike....I must apologize.....I just re-read my post, and I forgot to thank your for the information.
A 350 watt PSU is generally not big enough to run an 8800 along with everything else in a system.
I would suggest at least a 500 watt supply, but don't skimp on it - you generally get what you pay for.
I'm not real familiar with power supplies, but I do know that the more efficient they are, the better they are (unfortunatly, they also cost more), and the less energy they lose (as in heat created).
If the problem still exists after you replace the power supply, I would also check the temperature of the Northbridge chipset - I'm not sure where it is on the ASUS board, but there are utilities that will report the temperatures of the CPU, the Northbridge and Southbridge chipsets, and the ambient temperature.
That it mostly happens while gaming is a dead giveway to be either heat or power, but kind of confused as to the watching of movies......I didn't realize that watching movies strained the graphics card.
Wait...doesn't the 8800 series (and the new 8600 series, plus the 2900 series from ATI) decode the DVD's (and hi-def) on the card itself? Maybe not the 2900, but possibly the 2600?
Yourself (Dave)
JVS (BE)
06-23-2007, 06:21 AM
I contacted the person where I bought the pc, he told me that running a bunch of things together causes the lack of power. Perhaps that is why I also have the problem with movies, mostly have some other things running in the background then. And within the next week I am getting the 350 Watt replaced by 500 Watt.
And I hope to be sniping back like it should in now time. I am also going to replace my 21 inch crt screen from the previous century with a brand new 22 inch lcd, to see the blood splattering around with the best graphics that my 8800gts can produce :icon_biggrin: .
Mike said:
:3some: :3some: :3some:
But Mike....I must apologize.....I just re-read my post, and I forgot to thank your for the information.
A 350 watt PSU is generally not big enough to run an 8800 along with everything else in a system.
I would suggest at least a 500 watt supply, but don't skimp on it - you generally get what you pay for.
I'm not real familiar with power supplies, but I do know that the more efficient they are, the better they are (unfortunatly, they also cost more), and the less energy they lose (as in heat created).
If the problem still exists after you replace the power supply, I would also check the temperature of the Northbridge chipset - I'm not sure where it is on the ASUS board, but there are utilities that will report the temperatures of the CPU, the Northbridge and Southbridge chipsets, and the ambient temperature.
That it mostly happens while gaming is a dead giveway to be either heat or power, but kind of confused as to the watching of movies......I didn't realize that watching movies strained the graphics card.
Wait...doesn't the 8800 series (and the new 8600 series, plus the 2900 series from ATI) decode the DVD's (and hi-def) on the card itself? Maybe not the 2900, but possibly the 2600?
Yourself (Dave)
lol had to out do me :D
Yourself
06-25-2007, 07:23 AM
had to out do me
That wasn't my intent!
A 22 inch LCD?
What resolution were you gaming at on the 21 inch CRT?
The 22 inch LCD is probably 1680 x 1050.
Make sure you run it at native resolution....but that's going to be a phenomenal gaming experience.
Which 8800 GTS is it...the 320 meg, or the 640 meg?
If the 320 meg, you should be able to run at native resolution, however you may have some slowdowns or jitteryness if you run max AA and/or AF (I don't remember which one requires more RAM on the video card - I think it's AA).
If it's the 640, you won't have to worry about it.
So let me get this straight...not only do you want to own us by having great response and stunning graphics, you want to watch our blood splatter too?
You're sick...and I like it!
LOL
Yourself (Dave)
JVS (BE)
07-03-2007, 01:15 PM
I finally know what is wrong with my computer. Turns out that the driver for my expensive 8800 gts is screwed up. The software is telling that the card is about 100 degrees while it is actually only around 60 degrees, causing the system to do a safety shut down. The people of nvidia however know about this problem and or working on a patch which will be ready as soon as possible. This is expected by the end of August, so I have been having this problem since March. Next time I am going to spend a stupid amount of money on a graphics card it might not be an nvidia. : _harabe_net-8 They assured me however that I would not be having problems when I use low graphic settings till the patch.
JVS (BE)
11-18-2007, 04:01 AM
Ok here is the final solution for my problem. Apparently the Asus Am2 socket M2V motherboard is giving conflict with graphic cards from the 8 serie of Nvidia. After 6 months my computerseller could not find this problem. I took me a bit more then an hour surfing, installed the Asus patch and voila everything works like a sharm. Instead of doing this they replaced all the components of my computer. I am starting to wonder who is the computer amateur here. After my complained got a year of extra warranty. Anyhow after I finish the SP mission I am coming to haunt you guys on CoD4 MP.
Cheers,
A much less frustated Belgian bloke.
Bushy
11-18-2007, 05:55 AM
Glad you got it sorted Jens. look forward to seeing you around again.
Steve
raydoger
11-18-2007, 07:33 AM
AS TIM THE TOOL MAN WOULD SAY; MORE POWER :3some:
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